Town Hall Theatre Ghost – DEBUNKED!

I work at a small community-funded children’s theatre in Centerville, Ohio called Town Hall.   Yesterday, one of my young actors brought in a printed copy of the above image of Town Hall’s ghost, which was taken by Ohio’s elite “paranormal investigators” from Paravizionz.   Of course, I was curious and rushed over to the picture.  If this was an actual photo of a spirit roaming the lobby of the theatre, it would truly be an unprecedented miracle rewarded with a Nobel prize.

And yet, I was sadly disappointed to see that the apparition in question was merely a human’s shadow cast onto the main exit of the theatre.  I quickly abused my authority and power over the children to tell them the truth – not a ghost.  My demystification of the phenomenon was met with a lukewarm response… that I was no longer cool.

I didn’t like being uncool!  So, I went to work sleuthing the truth.  Perhaps this ghost really was a dead phantom roaming toward the theatre’s pay phone.  Maybe it was I who was blind to the greatest discovery of our generation.

So, I investigated further to find out that one of the theatre’s managers had been hanging out upstairs in the office while the Ghostbusters were waving their ectoplasm scanners around and setting their traps for Slimer investigators were investigating.  According to her, the investigators left different cameras video cameras to take pictures randomly (maybe while they scored a free meal free sides at City Barbecue?).

Anyway, she went on to explain that the “ghost” is almost certainly the shadow of her 6′6″ tall husband waiting for her to get out of the bathroom.  She’s positive of this fact because the shadow’s shape is consistent with the way her husband slouches and the cargo pocket shorts he wore that day.  In addition, her husband remembers the flash going off.  When she tried to explain this to Scooby Doo and the gang the investigators, they ignored her and placed another check in their arbitrary column of proof attempted to recreate the shot, failed to do so, and took a leap of logic to declare the image a ghost.

I’m told that Paravizionz’ theory is that the ghost is wearing knickerbockers, which are coincidentally about the same length as… cargo shorts. How anyone can decipher any article of clothing from a shadowy figure is beyond me, but I would wonder how a ghost could appear with clothes in the first place.  What outfit would they choose?  Their favorite?  The one they died in?  What about modern clothes?  Surely the ghost is starting to get hip to the fashions after being dead for a century or more.   Maybe the ghost just materialized cargo shorts to match the awesome guy hanging out with his wife during a paranormal investigation.  Anything’s possible when science is not part of the equation.

Do I think that paranormal investigators are frauds trying to hoax the public?  Not really.  I think they are friendly fantasy-prone folk who tend to look for any proof of a haunting they can find, like shadows and random noises, and they will manipulate misinterpret that nonsense as “evidence” to validate their agenda.  They get sucked into this lifestyle, they become invested in their own belief, and then they start to paint themselves into a world without logic.  A cold spot is no longer a blast of air conditioning from the vent – it is now a ghost.  An electromagnetic signal is no longer emitted by the ghost hunter’s own camcorder – it is now a ghost.  The shadow of a guy waiting for his wife to get out of the bathroom – is now a ghost.

I’ve known a lot of people who have claimed to have seen ghosts, heard them banging on pipes, watched them float from room to room.  It’s no surprise that these people are all imaginative dreamers.  And before you think that I’m a cynical bastard, I was once one of those dreamers.  I thought the pipes banging were ghosts, I thought a random glowing grave was a ghost, and I thought the spirits in the ouija board really told me that Jennifer liked me in 6th grade.  Now, logic and common sense tells me that furnace pipes bang for all kinds of mechanical reasons, that a glowing grave is probably the reflection of a streetlamp, and that perhaps it was my buddy or my subconscious mind moving the planchette to spell “Jennifer” (not a matchmaking spirit).

I know it’s fun to believe in ghosts.  I’m sure the X-Files Gang investigators love plugging in their expensive gizmos, but eventually somebody must be there to keep them in check.  Somebody has got to be the one that says, “You can’t measure something that doesn’t exist.”  Ghosts aren’t cold because ghosts aren’t real.  Ghosts aren’t electromagnetic because ghosts aren’t real.  You can’t take a picture of a ghost because ghosts aren’t real.

Do you think ghosts are real?

*updated with corrections from Paravisionz

23 Responses to “Town Hall Theatre Ghost – DEBUNKED!”

  1. Greg Barbera Says:

    good question.

    i’d like to think that i do believe in ghosts.

    but then i don’t really believe in God.

    Shouldn’t one who believes in ghosts believe in God or vice versus?

    Well, at least they caught Bigfoot…

  2. Brian Says:

    First of all we are not “Ghostbusters” and we do not manipulate anything to put out there as evidence. I would like to know how you can “debunk” the pic when you were not there to try to recreate the pic like we did. The shadow in the pic is a free standing shadow in a doorway…how does can a human shadow be freestanding without nothing to cast upon “science man”. The door that is behind the shadow is about 15 feet away and down a couple of stairs. If it was her husbands shadow that is reflected where is he at…since the pic was taken from the stage. And we spend a lot of time trying to dubunk noises, smells, and anything else we hear or see or smell. If you were there with us you would know that. One more thing how does he know that of the hunderds of pics that we took that night that the one from this pic is the one. After all the sat in a room with the door shut all night they didn’t go around with us. And when we use emf meters we get a base reading before we start investigating that way if we get any spikes we then try to find the source for the spike…”debunking”. I just feel that it is unfair for you to comment on this situation when you were not there and the people giving you the input were in a seperate room with the door shut. If we go back to the theater for a further investgation I would love for you to join us so you can see first hand how we do things. Thank you for your time…take care.

  3. Ticktock Says:

    The ghostbusters comment was a joke.

    You don’t find it odd that of all the possible “evidence” of a Town Hall ghost, the picture that is being used by your group as proof happens to be explainable by a first hand witness?

    This guy even told you that he was likely the shadow, and yet you didn’t mention that explanation on your page with the picture. He sat in a room with the door shut all night, except for the time when he went to the bathroom and saw the flash go off (it just so happens… right when he walked by that door).
    I don’t have to be Einstein to make a judgment based on the first-hand input I was given.

    Here’s a question for you “ghost man” :) . Why would a ghost look like a shadow and how could it be captured by a flash photograph? Here’s another question… why do you think that ghosts are electromagnetic in the first place? What possible fact can you give me and my readers to explain the use of EMF readers other than the fact that they seem like a neat gadget.

    I would love to join you for an investigation, but I doubt your group would receive me kindly after my comments.

  4. Brian Says:

    Ok “science guy”if that is him where is he at in the pic. as a science guru you should know that for a shadow to be cast there as to be a solid figure…I don’t see a solid figure in the pic and if he is down the hall how did the flash go around the corner hit him and bring his shadow back in the doorway…and you didn’t answer how a shadow can be freestanding. Now…spirits are said to be forms of energy so if there is a reading from an emf meter that cannot be traced to a wire or any other electrical device then the theory is that it could possibly be paranormal. Notice the word “possibly” we are sceptics ourselves as I said we do debunk things and it is those things that cannot be explained that are left as “possibly” paranormal. And if you have seen the guy you would know that he is bigger than the shadow. The shadow appears as a tall skinny man the gentleman that was there that night was a tall muscular man. And by the way we didn’t ask for a free meal at City BBQ, they asked who we were because they seen our shirts and they offered the sides at no charge…we paid for the meat and drink…once again you were not there. And our group does not judge people by their comments after all everyone is entitled to their own opinion and freedom of speech. I understand you being a skeptic but I was offended by the way you talked about us being ghostbusters and trying to catch slimer and the scooby doo comment when you don’t know us nor were you there to see us investigate. There is only one person who can judge me and it is not you. Once again thank you for your time and take care.

  5. Beth Hagan Says:

    Hello Sir,
    My name is Beth. I am the lead photographer for ParaVizionz (what’s your name?) I was personally at the Centerville Towne Hall Theater that night investigating. Once this photo was taken, I worked for hours in an attempt to debunk this picture. I lined people up and down the aisle, across the back of the theater and in the lobby to recreate this photo. I am the skeptic in the group. I can usually debunk anything… or come very close. I am sorry Sir, I cannot debunk this. I was unable to recreate this photograph with a living person. I do challenge you to do this however. Yes, there were hundreds of flashes going off that night in the theater. We took hundreds of pictures. If you had seen the full resolution photograph instead of one copied from the low res image on the internet, you would be able to see the detail that matches the description of the apparition reported to have been seen in the theater for years.

    Also, we are grateful to City BBQ for their hospitality. We paid for the main course and they complimented the sides. That was very considerate of them and we frequent their establishment because of it. City BBQ is a very good restaurant. We typically meet for dinner prior to an investigation, not during.

    Sir, we are a reputable, non-profit organization trying to help anyone who is in need with unexplained events in their residence. We sometimes investigate theaters, museums and other public facilities in order to train and hon our skills. It’s OK if you don’t believe in “ghosts”. 90% of what we find is not paranormal. We find explainable reasons for why residence are uncomfortable in their own house. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion but we would appreciate you not trying to destroy what we have worked so hard to build.

  6. Beth Hagan Says:

    TickTok, If you goto our website and contact us, I would like to bring you to an investigation. We can show you and explain everything we do. Then I encourage you to make an informed decision about paranormal investigating. You still may not believe in “ghost” but you will have a better understanding of what and why we do what we do.

  7. Ticktock Says:

    The shadow does not seem skinny, nor does it seem to be wearing knickers. Look again.

    There is an illusion of the shadow being freestanding, but your imagination is doing the rest. Beyond that, there are no such things as freestanding shadows (or ghosts), and until you can prove them, this “science guy” will default to an explanation that makes sense under the universal laws of physics, which you just so happened to decide to rewrite when you got overly excited about a shadow.

    Do all ghost hunters get free sides at City Barbecue? How nice! :)

    Your proof is not something that you personally experienced. It’s a photo that was randomly taken when you were not there. If you had been in the room, then you would have known that the theatre manager’s husband was not locked upstairs all night as you claim. So, seeing that neither of us were in the room when this picture was taken, I think my first hand interview with someone who was in the building the entire time trumps your imagination.

    You can’t claim to be a skeptic and ignore reality and scientific truth. The two are not compatible. You may not liked to be judged, but if you are going to publicize photos of shadows as ghosts, then you will earn judgment, just as I have earned it by my public comments here. That is the nature of the public internet.

    Again, the ghostbuster comments were silly, and really don’t merit being offended.

  8. Ticktock Says:

    My name is Colin

    If you guys do an investigation in Cincinnati, I would love to jump on board.

    I’m glad to hear that you attempted to recreate the shadow. That surprises me, and I think it makes the mystery that much more interesting (still not a ghost).

    The reason I wrote this blog was not to attack Paravisionz, but it was more to comment on the lack of critical thinking that occured with my young actors. In any event, I doubt that this post will attract any negative attention or destroy your group. If anything, maybe it will inspire you to be more careful to tell the entire story when you post a picture. I looked everywhere for some narrative of events that happened, but all I could find was the isolated picture.

    I hope the whole group doesn’t pile on me. There’s a lot of you guys. :)

  9. Beth Hagan Says:

    This picture was taken by a young lady standing on the stage not an automatic unmanned camera with no one present. Your a smart man and should know better than to swear to “hear-say”. The cameras we place on tripods and leave unmanned are video cameras not still shot. I hesitated saying this before but… please get your facts straight. And why do you keep harping on the consideration of City BBQ? I didn’t think that was worth a debate. I don’t know what else to say… Have a great day!

  10. Ticktock Says:

    Harping on? Hardly.

    I will update my post with your corrections.

  11. Beth Hagan Says:

    Ok

  12. Beth Hagan Says:

    There are a few of us. I am curious however. Where did you find this picture? I am thinking it was on our previous website. The site has changed quite a bit since then and should be more to your liking. We explain our research and findings. I agree that is a picture is posted, there should be an explanation of the finding and how it was taken.

    We do investigate in Cincinnati. Please send us an email and we can talk further about an upcoming investigation. We are doing quite a few private residences this month but I would enjoy having you along we when investigate a larger facility.

  13. Brian Says:

    First of all I was there…I am our groups Lead Investigator. And I believe it would be great for you to join us on an investigation. And the reason for that is because of your knowledge of science. You would be able to give alternate explinations that we cannot. I appologize for getting defensive I may have read the post the wrong way. I felt like we were being attacked and made out to be frauds. And I tend to get offensive when I feel like me or any one of my friends or family is being attacked. So once again I appologize for being a jerk. Once again thank you for your time and take care.

  14. Beth Hagan Says:

    I guess on the bright side, you added humor to your posts.

  15. Paranormal Visitors « SCIENCE-BASED PARENTING Says:

    [...] ass posts that I knew would bite me in the butt later.  The post in question was when I “debunked” an image that was being labeled as a ghost.  It just so happened that the ghost in question [...]

  16. Brian Says:

    Paranormal Visitors…what are you talking about is the image that was debunked not the same as the one our group took at the theater…the one above?

  17. Ticktock Says:

    This is a pingback to a brand new post where I say nice things about you guys and admit to making errors. Visit my home page.

  18. Brian Says:

    WOW That was very nice of you. You didn’t have to do that but I think I speak for all of ParaVizionz when I say “Thank You”. And we look forward to you joining us on an investigation one day. From one dad to another…You Rock…thanks again for your time and take care of those little ones and yourself.

  19. Beth Hagan Says:

    Colin, Whats your email address??? I have a picture to send you.
    Thank you so much for that article. That was very kind. You have also sparked my interest in acupressure. So, please send me an email so I can get yours. Thanks, Beth

  20. Guy Says:

    I think <a href=”http://www.flickr.com/photos/groyse/511686217/”my ghost photo is much cooler than the one above. But I am a bit biased as I took this one. :)

  21. Some Guy Says:

    Hi Skeptic Dad-

    I’m only going to take five minutes to write this, as it is only worth five minutes of my time.

    It’s interesting you call yourself a “Science Based Skeptic.” Funny, I don’t recall belittling other people, and their beliefs as part of my curriculum in all my science courses. Understandably, your blog is tongue and cheek, and free speech is, well, free. Humor is a great tool, but so is tolerance of opinion.

    The paranormal is a developing science. Yes, science (remember, people doubted the existence of atoms). I respect your skeptical opinion. I, for one, am a skeptical believer. Why? Because I have seen and experienced some incredible things that I could not scientifically explain. I hope to someday find proof and validation for these.

    I assume by your page, that someone close to you has autism. So do I. I hope you keep your mind open so that we may someday treat, and find prevention. Remember, Madame Curie, was doubted and made fun of too.

    P.S.- Don’t bother trying my fake email. Responding would waste your time and mine.

  22. Ticktock Says:

    The nature of the internet is such that teasing and “belittling” occurs occasionally. You are sorely mistaken if you think that science is not scathingly critical of claims that aren’t backed by a good use of the scientific method. It’s a process called peer review.

    “Opinions” aren’t science, and neither are “beliefs”. Your personal anecdotes are not proof of ghosts. When you have actual proof, you can publish it in a scientific journal and come back to say, “I told you so.” Until that time, I will not be lectured by you.

    The paranormal is as much a science as wizardry is, which is to say, not at all.

    I will keep my mind open, but not so open that it falls out…

    The Curie’s were awarded the Nobel prize only a few short years after publishing their paper on the radioactive phenomena. If they underwent any criticism, it was part of the natural process of peer review just like any new claim. The question is whether the claim is good enough to withstand criticism. You should ask yourself whether your belief can withstand one blog, let alone the scientific community.

    P.S. Stand behind your statements if you truly believe them to be true.

  23. Archie Debunker Says:

    I was once affiliated with ParaVizionz but left when I found out their “fearless leader” Lee was nothing more than an ego filled loser. While investigating a location he would throw rocks in one direction when he thought no one was looking and claim it was “movement from something over there”. I would stay away from this group at all costs. Not everyone is bad in the group but stay away from anything Lee does. He thinks he will one day be a member of TAPS but having spoke with someone I know from the show there is a better chance of you know where freezing over. All you have to do is go to youtube.com and type in paravizionz to see the kind of “evidence” they provide. It is disgraceful and give the real groups out there a bad name. I would rather go to a location and tell them the cause is natural instead of “finding” something “paranormal” at 95% of the places I go.

    Thanks,
    Archie Debunker

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