Comments on: My Local Teen Pregnancy/STD report card and why it matters http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:36:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Adam http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-9177 Adam Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:45:47 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-9177 Abstinence-based education leads to reduced teen sexual health issues as effectively as abstinence-based approaches to drug-use lead to fewer ODs and actual usage. When will they learn? Abstinence-based education leads to reduced teen sexual health issues as effectively as abstinence-based approaches to drug-use lead to fewer ODs and actual usage. When will they learn?

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By: Tessa http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7810 Tessa Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:58:41 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7810 I am from Germany - and therefore always stunned when I read about "abstinence-only"-sex-ed. Because I grew up in a rural, very Catholic and very conservative area in Germany - and I can't remember ever being told personally that the best way prevent pregnancy / infections is to not have sex. Not at my church (Lutheran), nor during the Catholic church services at school, not during our <i>mandatory</i> religious education lessons at school. Of course the Catholics here all know what the Pope is actually saying, and they consider themselves to be true Catholics (going to church every Sunday, following most rules) - but concerning this topic they just shrug their shoulders and tell their kids / pupils everything they need to know about the pill, condoms, STDs. And at the end of the day we have in Western and Central Europe (with the exception of that strange island in the North) low teenage pregnancy rates, relatively low abortion rates (lower than in the US), less HIV-infections... I would say Science beats Religion / personal opinions here fair and square. I am from Germany – and therefore always stunned when I read about “abstinence-only”-sex-ed. Because I grew up in a rural, very Catholic and very conservative area in Germany – and I can’t remember ever being told personally that the best way prevent pregnancy / infections is to not have sex. Not at my church (Lutheran), nor during the Catholic church services at school, not during our mandatory religious education lessons at school.

Of course the Catholics here all know what the Pope is actually saying, and they consider themselves to be true Catholics (going to church every Sunday, following most rules) – but concerning this topic they just shrug their shoulders and tell their kids / pupils everything they need to know about the pill, condoms, STDs.

And at the end of the day we have in Western and Central Europe (with the exception of that strange island in the North) low teenage pregnancy rates, relatively low abortion rates (lower than in the US), less HIV-infections… I would say Science beats Religion / personal opinions here fair and square.

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By: Jason http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7793 Jason Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:39:46 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7793 JonMcP, 1. Florida IS A RED STATE. We elected a Republican governor, and the State Senate and House are both run by Republicans. 2. Republicans here run on Small Government and Controlled Spending. I made a dig on them for not living up to their own standards. 3. This post is about a cavernous vacuum in Health Education, what filled that vacuum and the consequences. You focus on one sentence. You assume a lot buddy! You ASSUME to know my politics, you ASSUME I love big government, and you got a bunch of sand in your crotch ASSUMING I think skeptics have to be liberals. BTW You're wrong on all counts. JonMcP,

1. Florida IS A RED STATE. We elected a Republican governor, and the State Senate and House are both run by Republicans.
2. Republicans here run on Small Government and Controlled Spending. I made a dig on them for not living up to their own standards.
3. This post is about a cavernous vacuum in Health Education, what filled that vacuum and the consequences. You focus on one sentence.

You assume a lot buddy! You ASSUME to know my politics, you ASSUME I love big government, and you got a bunch of sand in your crotch ASSUMING I think skeptics have to be liberals. BTW You’re wrong on all counts.

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By: JonMcP http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7792 JonMcP Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:53:33 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7792 I've read through this twice and fail to see where your "red state" comment comes from?? What does small government have to do with parental involvement or the fact that the federal govco funds this bullshit? I think that once you stop letting a love of big leftest government interfere with your logic you'll be even better off. Jesus-fucking-Christ I am so sick of this false assumption that skeptics must be liberals by default. This has to be the most retarded entry I've read on this blog to date. I’ve read through this twice and fail to see where your “red state” comment comes from?? What does small government have to do with parental involvement or the fact that the federal govco funds this bullshit? I think that once you stop letting a love of big leftest government interfere with your logic you’ll be even better off. Jesus-fucking-Christ I am so sick of this false assumption that skeptics must be liberals by default. This has to be the most retarded entry I’ve read on this blog to date.

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By: littlez2008 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7789 littlez2008 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:41:17 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7789 I have taught in "at risk" youth programs in Los Angeles, and I wonder if we are taking that fed money, too. Our health textbooks are mostly about abstinence. Most of our kids are pretty much past that point. I remember one girl in my class got pregnant, and I just came out and asked her girlfriends, "How does this happen? There's so much information about birth control?" The girls answered, "You know, miss, sometimes you just trust a guy." I was confused. "Trust him to what?" They were talking about the withdrawal method (if you can call it a method). I got the point after a bit, but they were too shy to really discuss the whole thing. I was appalled that they didn't know the basics and clearly weren't learning at home or at our school. I later made an attempt to add assignments to that class at another school, but I no longer work in the classroom, so I'm not sure how it's going. I have taught in “at risk” youth programs in Los Angeles, and I wonder if we are taking that fed money, too. Our health textbooks are mostly about abstinence. Most of our kids are pretty much past that point. I remember one girl in my class got pregnant, and I just came out and asked her girlfriends, “How does this happen? There’s so much information about birth control?” The girls answered, “You know, miss, sometimes you just trust a guy.” I was confused. “Trust him to what?”

They were talking about the withdrawal method (if you can call it a method). I got the point after a bit, but they were too shy to really discuss the whole thing. I was appalled that they didn’t know the basics and clearly weren’t learning at home or at our school. I later made an attempt to add assignments to that class at another school, but I no longer work in the classroom, so I’m not sure how it’s going.

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By: John H. http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7779 John H. Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:19:31 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7779 Funding the abstinence-only approach to sex-ed is like the war on drugs: a futile enterprise, and also the only approach the fundies can live with in their "moral/ethical" framework. Yeah, it's actually neither one of those, in practice. Funding the abstinence-only approach to sex-ed is like the war on drugs: a futile enterprise, and also the only approach the fundies can live with in their “moral/ethical” framework. Yeah, it’s actually neither one of those, in practice.

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By: Buffy http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/11/my-local-teen-pregnancystd-report-card-and-why-it-matters/#comment-7778 Buffy Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:54:34 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2344#comment-7778 "Abstinence-only" sex education is child abuse, plain and simple. “Abstinence-only” sex education is child abuse, plain and simple.

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