Comments on: Some Skeptical Clarity to the Unrottable McDonald’s Burger Videos/Photos http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:36:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: benirleciel http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-10207 benirleciel Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:21:57 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-10207 I'd never seen that, but I agree with this post. McDonald's serves food that is essentially preserved. However, I'd like to point out that beef jerky, for example, can stay un-molded *in a car* (under the driver's seat, to be exact, just a kick away from the toddler's car-seat) for... a really long time. At least as long as that hamburger. And yes, even homemade bread will merely dry, not mold, if left out, uncovered, for years. I actually have bread that proves this. We collect the crusts on a plate for ducks. The best way to keep it (if not for eating) is out to dry. The french-fries, which should (since they do not require nearly the same level of sterilization), are the most worrisome, but yes, the level of salt explains that completely. For example, in Central and South Asia, they have a type of salted yoghurt-cheese ball (don't love it 'til you've tried it, it's actually awesome) that is set in summer and lasts all year long. It's a milk product, and they don't have airtight containers and most of them have no refrigerators (I mean the herders that make it, not the city-dwellers that buy it). It has nothing in it but goat's milk and salt, and it lasts a really long time. Same with their salted fish. Nice to have a post to send people to, should that show up on my FB feed, though. Thanks! I’d never seen that, but I agree with this post. McDonald’s serves food that is essentially preserved.

However, I’d like to point out that beef jerky, for example, can stay un-molded *in a car* (under the driver’s seat, to be exact, just a kick away from the toddler’s car-seat) for… a really long time. At least as long as that hamburger.

And yes, even homemade bread will merely dry, not mold, if left out, uncovered, for years. I actually have bread that proves this. We collect the crusts on a plate for ducks. The best way to keep it (if not for eating) is out to dry.

The french-fries, which should (since they do not require nearly the same level of sterilization), are the most worrisome, but yes, the level of salt explains that completely.

For example, in Central and South Asia, they have a type of salted yoghurt-cheese ball (don’t love it ’til you’ve tried it, it’s actually awesome) that is set in summer and lasts all year long. It’s a milk product, and they don’t have airtight containers and most of them have no refrigerators (I mean the herders that make it, not the city-dwellers that buy it). It has nothing in it but goat’s milk and salt, and it lasts a really long time. Same with their salted fish.

Nice to have a post to send people to, should that show up on my FB feed, though. Thanks!

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By: Julia http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9391 Julia Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:01:20 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9391 Actually, McDonalds is one of the places that isn't on my hit list of places not to get food for my daughter (and I'm kind of a "must be whole foods nazi"). But in a pinch, their chicken nuggets and a to-go milk and apples with carmel sauce are a pretty great fast food meal for a kid, I think. Better than some stuff on grocery store shelves marketed to kids. On the rotting burger topic - McDonalds gets its meat from large distributors who wash the meat in ammonia in order to make sure it is safe of e-coli. This actually isn't a rumor and the companies are proud of it for reducing the risk of food borne diseases. Whether or not that is harmful to health is not something I have enough information on - but I do think it would add to beef not decaying as quickly as one would expect because it has had a double whammy of killing bacteria - both with the ammonia and high cooking temperatures. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html Actually, McDonalds is one of the places that isn’t on my hit list of places not to get food for my daughter (and I’m kind of a “must be whole foods nazi”). But in a pinch, their chicken nuggets and a to-go milk and apples with carmel sauce are a pretty great fast food meal for a kid, I think. Better than some stuff on grocery store shelves marketed to kids.

On the rotting burger topic – McDonalds gets its meat from large distributors who wash the meat in ammonia in order to make sure it is safe of e-coli. This actually isn’t a rumor and the companies are proud of it for reducing the risk of food borne diseases. Whether or not that is harmful to health is not something I have enough information on – but I do think it would add to beef not decaying as quickly as one would expect because it has had a double whammy of killing bacteria – both with the ammonia and high cooking temperatures. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html

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By: Monica Hughes http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9289 Monica Hughes Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:05:17 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9289 Here's a 17 day update: http://sparkasynapse.blogspot.com/2010/11/of-mushrooms-molds-and-mcdonalds-day-17.html Here’s a 17 day update:

http://sparkasynapse.blogspot.com/2010/11/of-mushrooms-molds-and-mcdonalds-day-17.html

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By: Monica Hughes http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9191 Monica Hughes Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:54:36 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9191 Excellent points. Newsflash: McD's rots. I have a PhD in mycology, and I set up an experiment with video showing that it does. Including the fries. http://sparkasynapse.blogspot.com/2010/10/of-mushrooms-molds-and-mcdonalds-day_31.html Excellent points. Newsflash: McD’s rots. I have a PhD in mycology, and I set up an experiment with video showing that it does. Including the fries.

http://sparkasynapse.blogspot.com/2010/10/of-mushrooms-molds-and-mcdonalds-day_31.html

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By: RobAlister http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9163 RobAlister Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:47:23 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9163 This is sick! Experimentation on the sacred hamburger. They all need to be ashamed of themselves. (just kidding... sort of). I'd like to try some experiments of my own. For some reason I like to look at mold even though it gives me the shivers. This is sick! Experimentation on the sacred hamburger. They all need to be ashamed of themselves. (just kidding… sort of). I’d like to try some experiments of my own. For some reason I like to look at mold even though it gives me the shivers.

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By: Rob T http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9131 Rob T Fri, 29 Oct 2010 18:04:39 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9131 Bread at home is usually kept enclosed in a bag, where moisture is trapped. The experiment illustrated in the article was conducted in a cool, dry area, which will definitely inhibit the growth of anything on the food. I'm sure it was hard as a rock, though. Bread at home is usually kept enclosed in a bag, where moisture is trapped. The experiment illustrated in the article was conducted in a cool, dry area, which will definitely inhibit the growth of anything on the food.

I’m sure it was hard as a rock, though.

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By: a Lee http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-9127 a Lee Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:18:15 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-9127 Yeah, but what about the bread? My home load turns green within two or three weeks. This bread looks sterilized. You can't explain that bread looking THAT fresh~! Yeah, but what about the bread? My home load turns green within two or three weeks. This bread looks sterilized. You can’t explain that bread looking THAT fresh~!

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By: Rob T http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-8965 Rob T Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:09:34 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-8965 "...full of strange chemicals that can lead to all sort of problems later on in life." And what's your source for this assertion? “…full of strange chemicals that can lead to all sort of problems later on in life.”

And what’s your source for this assertion?

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By: Chris F. http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-8962 Chris F. Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:30:27 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-8962 I don't eat at fast food places or restaurants because the foods are generally unhealthy and full of strange chemicals that can lead to all sort of problems later on in life. Best to stay away from them. Of course, grocery stores aren't much better. I don’t eat at fast food places or restaurants because the foods are generally unhealthy and full of strange chemicals that can lead to all sort of problems later on in life. Best to stay away from them. Of course, grocery stores aren’t much better.

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By: Rob T http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2010/10/18/some-skeptical-clarity-to-the-unrottable-mcdonalds-burger-videosphotos/#comment-8275 Rob T Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:51:11 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2384#comment-8275 Yeah, I almost left that line out of the quote from Salon. Using "practically" in there makes it less precise, but still... The patty is only 1.8 oz (~50g) before cooking, but does contain 7 or 8 grams of protein (depending on which source you believe). Yeah, I almost left that line out of the quote from Salon. Using “practically” in there makes it less precise, but still…

The patty is only 1.8 oz (~50g) before cooking, but does contain 7 or 8 grams of protein (depending on which source you believe).

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