Comments on: The Anthropology of Anti-Vax http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/ Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:23:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Chris http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12345 Sun, 29 May 2011 16:03:44 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12345 So you don’t really know. Thank you.

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By: katharinetrauger http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12331 Sun, 29 May 2011 05:53:57 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12331 No offense intended toward Ms Montessori, but to those who HOMESCHOOL…? Was that one intended?

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By: katharinetrauger http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12330 Sun, 29 May 2011 05:47:35 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12330 You are right, I am not truly antivax, but often have felt forced to defend myself as if I were. There is nothing like the scowl of a disbelieving public health nurse to make you wonder which side is safer.
I fought off doctors to get immunizations, fought of public health to stop them, and again to resume them.
I do not mind fighting for my children’s lives; it was my joy. But having to fight both sides, back and forth, was plain tough, all sience aside.

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By: katharinetrauger http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12329 Sun, 29 May 2011 05:40:10 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12329 The current science was not in play, then. I was a mom of a patient, not a scientist. I was trusting the physician’s OPINION, and we all trust someone’s opinion, whether he be true scientist or physician. MY OPINION is that a physician should be current on his science and all science should be freely available to anyone who wishes to learn it. Alas, no one consults my opinion.
However, I had to protect my children (my opinion, again) and chose to do so by listening to a physician. Too bad, some may say, but really, a popular route, on any given day. And that’s fact with lotsa evidence.

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By: Chris http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12323 Sun, 29 May 2011 03:56:38 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12323 Oh, my. If one wishes to dwell on the psyche of the anti-vax movement, then read this account of a Skepchick being expelled from the AutismOne conference using three security and four police officers:
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/05/autismone-dont-snark-on-me-weve-got-security-and-police/

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By: Chris http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12241 Wed, 25 May 2011 15:45:28 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12241 “since the immunized one is contagious for a few days.”

Do you have evidence of this for vaccines other than smallpox (which is not given to children since the 1970s) or OPV (which has been replaced by IPV in the USA)? Thank you.

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By: Lynn Wilhelm http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12240 Wed, 25 May 2011 15:07:46 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12240 Are you truly anti-vax? Even though you start by saying you are, you apparently have a child, or more than one, that couldn’t get a vaccine at the recommended time.

And yes, I do think we take vaccines for granted. The anti vax movement has stopped me from doing that.

Here’s a good Ted talk on Polio, check it out: http://www.ted.com/talks/bruce_aylward_how_we_ll_stop_polio.html

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By: Kay http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12239 Wed, 25 May 2011 14:20:32 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12239 I think anti-vax is more a symptom of this growing notion that if we just jump through enough hoops, we’ll be safe and healthy. If we never expose our children to “toxins” they will be strong and intelligent. If we feed them the correct combination of foods, they will never get cancer. It’s another way we humans try to control our “destiny.” The people who don’t vax are, simply put, afraid of anything “bad” getting into their kids’ systems. And you have people like Dr. Oz on TV affirming their suspicions.

The competition part comes in when their notion is challenged. If they are wrong, it means they are exposing their children and other people’s children to disease and that is too hard to swallow, so plug on they must, with more fervor. They can’t be stupid after all, it has to be everyone else. (Kind of like fundamentalists)

But I think competitive parenting rears it’s ugly head in who is the most organic, who is having little Madison or Jayden enrolled in French classes, who has kids in a Montessori school (no offense – really!)or what mom is so amazing she is HOMESCHOOLING or UNSCHOOLING and how much more they are going to learn than being another brainwashed plebe.

Competitive parenting occurs when you have some system of parenting that you believe is the one way to raise and mold your child. It is rampant because older, educated people are having children and they think they know better and have all the answers. Then, because they have little outlet besides being wrapped up in parenting, they go on forums and blast the rest of us who send their kids to public school, who might take them to McDonald’s on occasion or give a good swat on the backside.

But I live near Chicago, so what = status might be different.

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By: katharinetrauger http://sciencebasedparenting.com/2011/05/25/the-anthropology-of-anti-vax/#comment-12237 Wed, 25 May 2011 13:59:23 +0000 http://sciencebasedparenting.com/?p=2865#comment-12237 Hi. Just found you on the tag surfer.
Sometimes, we anti-vax people were TOLD to skip immunization because of a prevailing health issue of one child. Yes, I am a SAHM, and retired home educator, but my pediatrician advised me to wait with immunization until my child was over the impetigo he had. This tidbit of advice put all immunizations on hold in our family, since the immunized one is contagious for a few days. It all was totally wonky with six kids and so forth. We got off schedule and had more babies, who also could not be immunized for the same reason. (We truly did fight impetigo for years…)
I think several things were wrong with this picture, but one of them was NOT that I was anti-doctor, anti-authority, etc.
Just trying to keep ‘em all alive and legal. The rubber hits the road when they go to college. All are now current with their “shots” as all went to college on academic scholarships. Happy ending to a scary ride.
However, I do think immunizations are important, really, just have to take them more seriously than we sometimes do. :-)

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